Raid Schedule Tetris

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Skarn
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Raid Schedule Tetris

Some people missed the "raid plan this week" posts at the end of the "Extending the Lockout" thread, so I decided to make a new one! Back on the old forums we had a thread that was updated every week. We haven't needed that yet on the new one, but there also wasn't as many options for what to do at first. So lots of talking, on to the point!

After talking about it last night at the end of the raid, the plan is to do the Thunder King again next Monday. Swipe (or Kul) will probably sit out on Thursday to save the lockout for the Thunder King. So Thursday we can clear some bosses and get some more loot! We'll probably use Loaffy's lockout which is saved post-Tortos and start with Megaera.

If we get started at 8:30 (which means being here and ready 10-15 minutes EARLY...crazy idea) and really focus and chain pull, we could get very far. A week ago we cleared Ji-kun through Iron Qon in one night. Let's add Megaera and Twins to that!

Skarn
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For June 13 and June 17

Got close on Lei Shen, 23%! That's only once into the final phase, but it's significantly better than the previous week.

This week there is a high chance I will be out Thursday night. I'm preparing stuff for a weekend trip and I don't know how fast it will all get done Thursday. If it's super fast, then I'll be online, but that's unlikely. :) The raid wanted to do a fresh clear (or start from Tortos), so that's the Thursday plan.

For Monday, we can use my lockout and go straight to Lei Shen and finish him off!

For Science!

Loaffy
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not so fresh

Are we going to use my lockout again, and start with Meg on June 20 or are we doing a fresh start again?

Loaffy lvl 100 Warrior
Aristodemus lvl 100 Pally
Mushak lvl 100 Monk
Ímpatient lvl 100 Druid
Tells lvl 90 Priest
Tellos lvl 90 Shammy
Vonnegut lvl 90 Warlock
Bãcksurgeon lvl 91 Rogue
Merrelleyla lvl 94Hunter

I'm tired of lvling alts!

Skarn
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Blech

This week did not go as planned, alas! Mostly due to a lot of RL stuff that crushed plans. Yay, life! :)

If all that is better on Thursday, we may extend a lockout and go for the Thunder King. Otherwise we'll probably pick up at Durumu.

For Science!

Loaffy
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Do we know for sure if we're

Do we know for sure if we're going straight to Thunder King, or we killing Duru for the name of SCIENCE?

Raid sign-ups look to be lacking as of late.

we actually had 10 people post in the raid sign-up page
3 as a no go (Ard, Aanvil, & Kro[2heal & 1DPS])

so 2 tanks (Swipe & Loaf)

1 Healer (Muta)

and 4 DPS (Skarn, Luv, Dark, & Serelyn)

so missing 2 healers and a dps for tonight.

Loaffy lvl 100 Warrior
Aristodemus lvl 100 Pally
Mushak lvl 100 Monk
Ímpatient lvl 100 Druid
Tells lvl 90 Priest
Tellos lvl 90 Shammy
Vonnegut lvl 90 Warlock
Bãcksurgeon lvl 91 Rogue
Merrelleyla lvl 94Hunter

I'm tired of lvling alts!

Skarn
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Crazy

Sign ups don't work quite the way I'd like. :) Most of the time, if a sign-up is missing it's a "yes." Usually. So that's what I assume, but as you know it doesn't always work out. Sometimes Auto's internet leaks.

Bluepea signed up, so that's 11. Missing are Mal, Rom and Kul. If all three can come, which is likely for Mal and Kul, but iffy for Rom, then we'll be fine and have an extra tank. Serelyn can fill in for a healer. If 1-2 are still missing at raid time, we can probably PuG a DPS or healer and we're fine on tanks. I know a few so they might be available.

If we have to PuG someone, we'll probably still start at Durumu. If Kul is here and we have a full group, we might be able to use Ardwen's lockout to go to Twins.

Anyway, it's unfortunately hard to tell what we have until actual raid time. Yes, that is frustrating for me. Such is partly the nature of our more laid-back guild.

For Science!

Loaffy
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THUNDER

Monday, is now a progression night.

Loaffy lvl 100 Warrior
Aristodemus lvl 100 Pally
Mushak lvl 100 Monk
Ímpatient lvl 100 Druid
Tells lvl 90 Priest
Tellos lvl 90 Shammy
Vonnegut lvl 90 Warlock
Bãcksurgeon lvl 91 Rogue
Merrelleyla lvl 94Hunter

I'm tired of lvling alts!

Loaffy
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death of a sales man

With us killing Lei Shen, what are we doing on Thursday? I would love to drop him again, cuz well, I just didn't like his loot drop, but are we going to start a fresh run, extend a lockout thats further, or even extend Blue's lockout?

Loaffy lvl 100 Warrior
Aristodemus lvl 100 Pally
Mushak lvl 100 Monk
Ímpatient lvl 100 Druid
Tells lvl 90 Priest
Tellos lvl 90 Shammy
Vonnegut lvl 90 Warlock
Bãcksurgeon lvl 91 Rogue
Merrelleyla lvl 94Hunter

I'm tired of lvling alts!

Aanvil
Heroic jin'Rokh
Krokuss
Ya!

let's try to knock some heroic bosses down...

Skarn
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NEXT

Lockouts we have:
Fresh (Those of us that killed Lei Shen)
Lei Shen only (Swipe and Bluepea)
Start at Durumu (Rom and Mal)

I'd certainly like to kill Lei Shen again, but I don't think that's the ONLY thing we should do for two days. So the options are a fresh lockout or starting from Durumu. That option is only possible if Rom or Mal is able to show up. Rom is indefinitely "iffy" due to family health concerns. Mal is totally unknown. Very strange that he's dropped off the grid.

Thus, I expect to be starting a new lockout on Thursday and as Aanvil pointed out, I think it's worth our time to hit Heroic Jin'rokh. He's overall fairly simple and shouldn't take long for us to smash. Other Heroic bosses will take more effort, so I'm inclined to clear the rest on Normal for the remainder of the week. Certainly more tier and stuff we can get from the later bosses!

For Science!

Loaffy
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Can we Run Lei Shen Normal,

Can we Run Lei Shen Normal, then zone out and start working Heroic?

Loaffy lvl 100 Warrior
Aristodemus lvl 100 Pally
Mushak lvl 100 Monk
Ímpatient lvl 100 Druid
Tells lvl 90 Priest
Tellos lvl 90 Shammy
Vonnegut lvl 90 Warlock
Bãcksurgeon lvl 91 Rogue
Merrelleyla lvl 94Hunter

I'm tired of lvling alts!

Skarn
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nu-uh

No.

Once you've killed a boss on any difficulty, you can't go back to a previous boss within the same lockout.

When Lei Shen dies, that's the end of that lockout.

For Science!

Skarn
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Thunda

We cleared up to Iron Qon last night with a couple of PuGs. Thursday we'll be off for the 4th, no raid is planned. Next Monday we'll extend the lockout and pick up at Qon. We should be able to kill him and the Twins fast to give us a time buffer for killing Lei Shen again.

So long as enough of us can show, it should be easy!

For Science!

Loaffy
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Shield

So....... I should find a group and run Primordius and get my F(*&ing shield?

Loaffy lvl 100 Warrior
Aristodemus lvl 100 Pally
Mushak lvl 100 Monk
Ímpatient lvl 100 Druid
Tells lvl 90 Priest
Tellos lvl 90 Shammy
Vonnegut lvl 90 Warlock
Bãcksurgeon lvl 91 Rogue
Merrelleyla lvl 94Hunter

I'm tired of lvling alts!

Aanvil
Yes. Our raid group is not

Yes. Our raid group is not going to be eligible to run Primordius this week. Everyone should be free to PuG up to and including Dark Animus.

Skarn
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Yup

What Aanvil said. You are free to PuG anything prior to Iron Qon.

Not that you NEED to, cuz you'll just get Lei Shen's shield on Monday, right?

For Science!

Skarn
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Next

Currently planning a fresh run on Thursday, possibly with Heroic Jin'rokh. We will need to find a PuG or two though. Currently OUT for sure on Thursday are:

Aanvil
Krokuss
Romalus
Serelyn
Swipenrake

Which leaves us just 9 raiders. IF everyone else can come, we're obviously short one. So if you are going to be out tomorrow, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE let me know! Post to the sign-up thread, post here, tweet me or even text me, I don't care! That's why my information is there in the "Emergency Contact" sticky over in the Private General Discussion forum. (That's not a publicly viewable forum, Muta or I have to give specific access to it.)

Words can not describe how much better it is to see a small text saying "sorry I can't make it tonight, [event] happened" instead of just dead space at raid time. It SUCKS SO MUCH sitting there wondering "is this person coming or not?"

So PLEASE update us! Events happening outside of the game are ABSOLUTELY more important, but it won't take more than a minute or two to let me know something happened. Thank you. :)

For Science!

mutagen
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I posted on the calendar but

I posted on the calendar but I'm gonna post here as well. Monday is looking grim for me. At best I'll be tired and playing bad, at worst I'll be sleeping because the project isn't done and I have to be up at 4:30 am again ><

Ardwen
unsure

Hey Guys

Been really busy the past few days with work, very early days to demo to docs and currently waiting in spokane airport hoping my flight isn't cancelled again (yesterday it was cancelled thus why i'm not home yet). Kul is also a maybe as he has had a huge project that finishes today but i'm sure he is extremely tired with late night preps. so if we aren't on at 8:30 dont wait for us. :)

Skarn
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SPOKANE

Serelyn is in Spokane! He's probably hiding somewhere looking for a rare.

The updates are VERY appreciated! :)

For Science!

Loaffy
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time

I know i posted that I'll be late, but looks like I'll be right on time tonight.

Loaffy lvl 100 Warrior
Aristodemus lvl 100 Pally
Mushak lvl 100 Monk
Ímpatient lvl 100 Druid
Tells lvl 90 Priest
Tellos lvl 90 Shammy
Vonnegut lvl 90 Warlock
Bãcksurgeon lvl 91 Rogue
Merrelleyla lvl 94Hunter

I'm tired of lvling alts!

Loaffy
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Monday raid?

So far we have 8 people signed up for Monday. We also have 4 no's as well.

Signed up so far:

Tank:
Loaffy
Kul

Heal:
Ard

DPS:
Skarn
Serelyn
Dark
Luv
Blue

Signed up as out:
Swipe (tank)
Aanvil (heal)
Muta (heal)
Kro (dps)

That leaves
Mal (heal)
Rom (dps)

Sign up peoples!

*edited*

Loaffy lvl 100 Warrior
Aristodemus lvl 100 Pally
Mushak lvl 100 Monk
Ímpatient lvl 100 Druid
Tells lvl 90 Priest
Tellos lvl 90 Shammy
Vonnegut lvl 90 Warlock
Bãcksurgeon lvl 91 Rogue
Merrelleyla lvl 94Hunter

I'm tired of lvling alts!

Skarn
Skarn's picture
Rom

For the moment, Rom is an indefinite "Out." He's dealing with a lot of RL stuff including helping his wife recover, fixing his flooded house (in Canada) and managing his business, which he had to leave for a month to go to Chile to help his wife. So a bunch of time consuming, but important stuff!

Rom still hopes to come back in a month or two after everything gets set right, but until we hear otherwise from him, I'm assuming he's Out for raids. I don't think we need to recruit to fill his spot at the moment. He does hope to come back and an extra melee DPS isn't that critical of a need anyway. ;) So we'll save the spot for Rom for now, but if he decides that he can't make it back, we'll re-evaluate.

But yes, sign up!

P.S. For the raid tonight, we might be able to get one or both of our PuGs from Thursday. We'll see what's up, since we're likely to be at least one short.

For Science!

Loaffy
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time change

I had a shift change at the last minute, so I will be there on time tonight.

Loaffy lvl 100 Warrior
Aristodemus lvl 100 Pally
Mushak lvl 100 Monk
Ímpatient lvl 100 Druid
Tells lvl 90 Priest
Tellos lvl 90 Shammy
Vonnegut lvl 90 Warlock
Bãcksurgeon lvl 91 Rogue
Merrelleyla lvl 94Hunter

I'm tired of lvling alts!

Skarn
Skarn's picture
Heroic Plans

Good News: We had two VERY good attempts on H-Jin'rokh this week, one of which got him to 1%!

Bad News: We ONLY had TWO good attempts. Out of 22. UGH.

There were also mixed opinions on what we should do that night. Whether we should have kept trying Jin or moved on to just kill something. Some people were really tired with Normal and wanted to push Heroics hard, while others were really looking forward to a relaxing night of killing bosses and having fun. BOTH are very valuable to a healthy and happy raid, so the trick is grabbing that balance. I felt that as late as it was, we were just going downhill so it was time for some fun, which is why I had us move on.

Now, the future. I would absolutely like to keep working on Heroic bosses and if everyone would be happy skipping out on farm stuff for that, then that's fine. That's essentially how Normal progression is. We couldn't just skip Megaera when we had a hard time on her. We had to stick it out and kill her. We CAN do that on Heroic bosses though, which is obviously appealing when you still need loot. (Side note, we don't need loot to kill Jin'rokh. We nearly killed him with FOUR deaths. We have more than enough loot, we just need to execute properly.)

My suggestion is that for our next good raid, we spend the first 90 minutes on Heroic Jin'rokh. If we can't down him in that time frame, if we're just not executing right, we should move on. The rest of that Thursday night can be spent clearing the first five bosses. THEN on Monday we can spend an hour or two on Heroic Ji'kun. Why two bosses? Why not spend more time on Jin'rokh? Frankly, I think Ji'kun will be easier for us. I think there are less ways to screw it up, overall. Not so many things that can blow up. Further, the Lightning Storm on Jin requires everyone to do it right, but Ji'kun only needs a small group to fly properly. Numbers might be tighter, but mechanics may be easier. We won't know for sure until we try! :)

Will that be THIS week? Very hard to say. This Thursday we are already missing Ardwen, Kulgarr, Krokuss and Mutagen. That drops us to 9 raiders if everyone else can come. Monday looks better. If everyone else can show up and we find a good PuG, we can go for Heroic Jin'rokh anyway. Or we can do a fast loot clear night. Either way, I hope it will be fun!

For Science!

Skarn
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Thursday July 25

K lissen up gud!

We should have eight raiders tonight. Swipe, Loaffy, Luv, Dark, Blue, Skarn, Serelyn, Mal. That leaves us shy one healer and one DPS, which we shouldn't have too much trouble pugging up tonight. Thus we should have a satisfying and enjoyable raid night!

We can do a little Heroic Jin if we want or just smashes all the stuff so we can actually kill the Thunder King on Monday and hopefully get Blue and Mal their kill.

For Science!

Loaffy
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Objection!

I may be a hour late now. Boss threw a fit about cleaning and now I'm staying to finish up some work that should have been done by others. 9:30 server at the latest.

Loaffy lvl 100 Warrior
Aristodemus lvl 100 Pally
Mushak lvl 100 Monk
Ímpatient lvl 100 Druid
Tells lvl 90 Priest
Tellos lvl 90 Shammy
Vonnegut lvl 90 Warlock
Bãcksurgeon lvl 91 Rogue
Merrelleyla lvl 94Hunter

I'm tired of lvling alts!

Loaffy
Loaffy's picture
who's next

What boss are we starting on again?

Loaffy lvl 100 Warrior
Aristodemus lvl 100 Pally
Mushak lvl 100 Monk
Ímpatient lvl 100 Druid
Tells lvl 90 Priest
Tellos lvl 90 Shammy
Vonnegut lvl 90 Warlock
Bãcksurgeon lvl 91 Rogue
Merrelleyla lvl 94Hunter

I'm tired of lvling alts!

Ardwen
actually home

Kul and I are home and can raid tonight so we have another healer and tank that can be there on time :)

Skarn
Skarn's picture
waoh

Loaffy, we're on the Dark Animus. We should be able to finish up pretty fast.

Ardwen, well, welcome back! Sounds like we should have 12 people there tonight. Hah!

For Science!

Krokuss
Light on sign ups...

Any idea on plan for tonight?

Skarn
Skarn's picture
???

Query: With the screwy servers messing up our run last night, what do we want to do on Thursday?

a) Extend straight to H Ji-kun
b) Reclear first five on Normal, then H Ji-kun
c) Spend an hour-ish on H Jin'rokh then clear to H Ji-kun

I'm leaning C, but B is fine. A just seems silly to skip 5 bosses that we could kill in 90 minutes.

For Science!

mutagen
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A or C would be my choice.

A or C would be my choice.

A gives us 90 more minutes on H Ji-Kun (that we likely don't really need) and some time to clear out the rest of the instance (that we don't really need either).

C gives us a good chance of downing two new heroic bosses in one night.

Loaffy
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C for the pain

C for the pain

Loaffy lvl 100 Warrior
Aristodemus lvl 100 Pally
Mushak lvl 100 Monk
Ímpatient lvl 100 Druid
Tells lvl 90 Priest
Tellos lvl 90 Shammy
Vonnegut lvl 90 Warlock
Bãcksurgeon lvl 91 Rogue
Merrelleyla lvl 94Hunter

I'm tired of lvling alts!

AutoGun
AutoGun's picture
C is for Corn?

C sounds like the best plan for me personally as that like Muta says gives us the opportunity to do 2 new heroic bosses in a night!

Darkguns - Level 90 DK
Autogun - Retired Lock
Wilygun - Druid Extraordinaire
Shamgun - Shaman fun!

Loaffy
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3 4 C

3 for C it must be.

Loaffy lvl 100 Warrior
Aristodemus lvl 100 Pally
Mushak lvl 100 Monk
Ímpatient lvl 100 Druid
Tells lvl 90 Priest
Tellos lvl 90 Shammy
Vonnegut lvl 90 Warlock
Bãcksurgeon lvl 91 Rogue
Merrelleyla lvl 94Hunter

I'm tired of lvling alts!

Krokuss
I agree!

with the C

mutagen
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C was an awesome plan. We

C was an awesome plan. We should do it again, maybe clean up those kills a little and start thinking about a next heroic to work on. Iron Qon, Tortos, Horridon might be possibilities.

My brother is in town tomorrow and I may be late. I'm still waiting to hear about final plans. He's doing the Vegas to Reno offroad race so an early race start Friday morning might mean I'll be home in time for the raid.

mutagen
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Cleared through Maegara.

Cleared through Maegara. Consensus was Heroic Ji Kun on Monday.

Skarn
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Next:

Aight, given that I think we should smash out H Ji-kun on Monday, clear the next 3 quickly on Normal and give H Iron Qon a try.

For Science!

mutagen
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I'm likely out on Thursday, I

I'm likely out on Thursday, I'm still out of town and uncertain of my schedule. I might try raiding from my laptop but I won't know until a little before raid time.

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